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EMDR, Cultural Humility, and Doing Your Own Work: Conversation with Mark Nickerson

“To be a culturally competent therapist is to be a human first—curious, aware, humble, and willing to grow.”
May 8, 2025
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Is EMDR Too Insular?: A Conversation with Derek Farrell

Is EMDR Too Insular?: A Conversation with Derek Farrell What happens when a visionary academic, a few decades
April 10, 2025
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What if EMDR Was a Truly Somatic Therapy?

What if EMDR Was a Truly Somatic Therapy? In the world of EMDR therapy, conversations about somatics are
March 27, 2025
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Beyond Protocol: EMDR, Case Conceptualization, and the Power of Shared Language

In the world of EMDR therapy, it's easy to get caught up in technique—perfecting protocols, refining scripts, and
March 6, 2025
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Somatic Experiencing and EMDR: Interview with Amanda Johnson and Rachel Cagle

Somatic Experiencing and EMDR: Interview with Amanda Johnson and Rachel Cagle Bridging EMDR and Somatic Experiencing: A Conversation
February 14, 2025
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EMDR with Kids: Interview with Christine Mark-Griffin

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger sit down with Kristine Mark-Griffin for a discussion on working with
February 6, 2025
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Beyond is Evolving!: Shifts and Refocusing

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger talk about their relationship over the past five years in
February 6, 2025
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Happy New Year!

Happy New Year! Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk about some super exciting things coming in
January 16, 2025
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Ketamine Assisted EMDR Therapy: Interview with Danielle Ciccone & Michele Topel

In this exciting episode, we sit down with Danielle Ciccone and Michele Topel, the creators of Ketamine Assisted
January 9, 2025
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EMDR, Ego-States, and Neurobiology – Interview with Sandra Paulsen

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Sandra Paulsen. Yes, THE Sandra Paulsen. The author of
November 22, 2024
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Ending Therapy: How do You Know?

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion on ending therapy. This conversation is a part of Notice
November 7, 2024
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Reevaluation and the Three Pronged Protocol

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss Reevaluation in the standard 8-phase protocol of EMDR, as well
October 24, 2024
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The EMDR Continuum: Interview with Roy Kiessling

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Roy Kiessling about the EMDR processing continuum. In this
October 10, 2024
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EMDR Now, Then, and Tomorrow: Interview with Roy Kiessling

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa's conversation with Roy Kiessling. Roy is an EMDRIA-certified trainer and the
September 26, 2024
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Unlocking EMDR’s Potential: A Deep Dive with EMDRIA’s Michael Bowers on Building Community, Advocacy, and Excellence

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Michael Bowers, the Executive Director of EMDRIA. We got
September 12, 2024
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Fly On the Wall: Jen and Bridger’s Summer

Listen in to Jen and Bridger reflect on their experience of being therapists when life happens!
September 5, 2024
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EMDR for ADHD: Interview with Noelle Lynn

Listen in to hear an interview with Noelle Lynn, therapist, advocate, and researcher specializing in the treatment of
August 15, 2024
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Recovering from Spiritual Trauma – Interview with Jamie Marich

Listen in to hear Melissa's conversation with Dr. Jamie Marich on their upcoming book, You Lied to Me
July 6, 2024
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EMDR for Couples and Families

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on the work they've been doing to support couples and
May 21, 2024
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Installation, Body Scan, and Closure: Phases 5-7 of EMDR Therapy

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger discuss installation, body scan, and closure within the context of phases
May 1, 2024
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Phase Four: The Purpose and Function of Desensitization and Reprocessing in EMDR Therapy

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the purpose and function of desensitization and reprocessing in EMDR
May 1, 2024
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Introduction to Phase Four: Desensitization, Reprocessing, Body Scan, and Installation

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger dive in to a conversation about Phase Four of the
February 29, 2024
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Assessment, Cognitions, Sensations, and Meaning in EMDR Therapy

Listen in as Jen and Bridger pick back up in the Back to Basics season with chapter five
February 14, 2024
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Future Template, Floatback, and Ego State Work in EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That Podcast. This episode concludes the winter special
February 5, 2024
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Assessment, Reprocessing, Closure, and Reevaluation with EMDR: From the EMDR Supplement

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That podcast and The EMDR Supplement. Within this
January 25, 2024
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Case Conceptualization for EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That team as they share from The EMDR
January 11, 2024
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Resourcing & Preparation for Reprocessing with EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement

Listen in to hear the hosts of Notice That as they share material from The EMDR Supplement, an
January 4, 2024
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What is EMDR?: From the EMDR Supplement

Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That team. In this small series of podcast
December 18, 2023
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Phase Two: Preparation for Reprocessing Target Memories

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their discussion of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement
December 1, 2023
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Treatment Planning with EMDR: Where Do We Start?

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up on their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye
November 16, 2023
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Fly on the Wall – Life in the EMDR World

Listen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger process through their experience of living and practicing in the
November 7, 2023
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EMDR and Therapeutic Intensity – For the Client and Therapist

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger dive in to discuss therapeutic intensity in EMDR therapy. For the
November 7, 2023
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Healing the Fragmented Self – Self Development and Complex Trauma

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation on self development and fragmentation as well the healing journey.
October 16, 2023
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What is Somatic Integration and Processing?

What is Somatic Integration and Processing? Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa present to a small group
October 6, 2023
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Phase One: Getting Grounded in History Taking with EMDR

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger pick back up their journey through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement
September 25, 2023
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Understanding Targets in EMDR Therapy

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger finish chapter three in Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing
July 20, 2023
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Psychedelics and EMDR Therapy – Interview with Danielle Ciccone

Listen in to hear Melissa's conversation with Danielle Ciccone as they reflect on their experience of the Psychedelic
July 20, 2023
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Basic Components of EMDR Therapy

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger pick back up on the Back to Basics season as they
June 23, 2023
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When Going Slow Speeds Us Up in EMDR Therapy

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa continue working through Francine Shapiro's seminal Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing
June 13, 2023
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Becoming an EMDR Consultant

Listen in to hear Jen sit down with Angel Hirsch, an EMDRIA approved consultant and therapist from Austin
June 1, 2023
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Adaptive Information Processing (AIP) and the Brain – Interview with Caleb Boston & Bridger Falkenstien

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa talk with the hosts of the Evidence Based Therapist Podcast as
April 18, 2023
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EMDR is Not an Intervention

Listen in to hear the hosts finish up chapter one of Francine Shapiro's seminal text in EMDR Therapy,
April 8, 2023
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The Art and Science of EMDR: Helping Clinicians Bridge the Path from Protocol to Practice

Listen in to here Bridger's interview with therapist, community developer, and author, Rotem Brayer. This discussion features a
March 28, 2023
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First Time Using EMDR

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk reflect back on their first experiences as newly trained EMDR
March 14, 2023
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Feeling What We Remember – Interview with Bruce Ecker

What do we do as EMDR Therapists with new research? How should we protect the fidelity of EMDR
March 14, 2023
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Designed to Heal and Be Well: Adaptive Information Processing & EMDR

Listen in to hear Melissa and Jen continue their exploration of the first chapter of Francine Shapiro's seminal
March 2, 2023
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Back to Basics – Season Introduction

Listen in to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger's first episode in the new Back to Basics season on
February 14, 2023
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Polyvagal Theory and EMDR with Kids – Interview with Jackie Flynn – Winter Repost

Show Notes Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Jackie Flynn about using Polyvagal theory and
January 26, 2023
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Ego State Work and Interacting with Parts – Winter Repost

Happy holidays from Beyond! This is a repost of our episode on working with Ego states using EMDR.
January 10, 2023
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Dissociation Made Simple – Interview with Jamie Marich

Listen in to hear Melissa and Jen's conversation with Jamie Marich about dissociation and EMDR. For more information
December 15, 2022
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EMDR with Teens and Families – Interview with Annie Monaco and Nicole Wolasz

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion with Annie Monaco and Nicole Wolasz where they discuss the
December 1, 2022
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Every Memory Deserves Respect (EMDR): Interview with Deborah Korn and Michael Baldwin

Listen in to hear Jen’s interview with Deborah Korn and Michael Baldwin as they discuss the relationship between therapist and client in EMDR and talk about their new book entitled “Every Memory Deserves Respect: EMDR, the Proven Trauma Therapy with Power to Heal”.

You can find this book by searching its title in your favorite search engine. For more information on the book, here’s the description presented on the back of the book:

November 17, 2022
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Professional Development and EMDR Practice

Show intro Did you know?  After full completion of Beyond Healing Institute’s Somatic Integration and Processing training, each
October 28, 2022
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Interview with Ann Beckley Forest and Annie Monaco

Listen to Jen's interview with Ann Beckley Forest and Annie Monaco. Did you know?  After full completion of
September 28, 2022
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Working Somatically with EMDR: Interview with Beth Segaloff

Melissa interviews Beth Segaloff about how to work somatically using EMDR. Connect with Beth Segaloff Life School 101
September 13, 2022
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Fly on the Wall with Jen and Ryan Savage

Fly on the wall
Ryan joins Jen today on a Fly on the Wall episode. They have conversation about what its like
August 30, 2022
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Interweaves and EMDR with Dr. Michelle Morrissey (82)

Jen and Bridger interview Dr. Michelle Morrissey on EMDR and interweaves. I am writing this book for several
August 23, 2022
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Subjective Business – The Cost of Creativity (BONUS)

The owners of Beyond Healing discuss business subjectively. The owners of Beyond Healing discuss business subjectively.
August 16, 2022
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Season 3 Introduction (81)

Melissa, Jen, and Bridger introduce Season 3 through their current excitement within EMDR, the Beyond Healing Community, and
August 2, 2022
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Case Conceptualization Fly on the wall General Personal Story

Fly on the Wall with Jen and Bridger (80)

Fly on the wall
On this week's episode, Jen and Bridger discuss their subjective experiences as therapists. Objective and Subjective Strategies The
July 19, 2022
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Substance Abuse & EMDR (79)

On this bonus episode of Notice That, the hosts discuss substance abuse through an SIP lens. Complexities of
July 5, 2022
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Empowerment Self-Defense w. The Safety Team (78)

Melissa interviews The Safety Team. A group of women facilitating healing in women with trauma backgrounds through empowered
June 2, 2022
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General Interviews Somatic

Somatic, Adventure, & EMDR Therapy with Katie Asmus (76)

On this week's episode, Melissa interviews Katie Asmus of the Somatic Wilderness Therapy Institute. They discuss somatic work,
May 3, 2022
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Case Conceptualization Fly on the wall General Q&A SIP Somatic

Fly on the Wall: Melissa (75)

Fly on the wall
Melissa lays the groundwork for our new segment, Fly on the Wall. Our hope with fly on the
April 19, 2022
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General Interviews Personal Story

Confronting Systemic Racism & Healing Racial Trauma w/ David Archer (74)

On this week's episode of Notice That, Bridger interviews special guest, David Archer, an anti-racist EMDR therapist. David
April 5, 2022
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Couples Therapy & EMDR (73)

Listen to this week's episode of Notice That to hear the hosts discuss how to use EMDR within
March 22, 2022
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Incorporating Yoga, Movement, and EMDR (72)

On this episode, Melissa interviews Mary Horne. Mary is a private practitioner in Arkansas where she utilizes yoga
March 8, 2022
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Sero Stones for EMDR Therapy (Bonus)

On this week's episode of Notice That, Jen interviews the creators of Sero stones, Ciaran Murphy and Tyler
March 2, 2022
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Attachment Work & EMDR (71)

On today's episode of Notice That, Jen and Bridger discuss parent/child attachment and EMDR. Importance of the First
February 22, 2022
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Polyvagal Theory and EMDR w/ Kids – Jackie Flynn (70)

Welcome our special guest, Jackie Flynn! Jackie and the hosts discuss the integration of polyvagal theory, EMDR, and
February 8, 2022
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Notice That – Season 2 (69)

Notice That
The hosts of Notice That - An EMDR Podcast reflect on how far the show has come and
January 24, 2022
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Case Conceptualization with SIP (Bonus)

Case Conceputalization
Melissa, Bridger, & Caleb discuss a case through Somatic Integration & Processing. Interested in case conceptualization? Check out
January 18, 2022
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Neurodevelopment & Attachment (68)

Welcome to Season Two! Listen to Notice That's first episode of 2022 to hear the hosts discuss neurodevelopment,
January 5, 2022
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Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger Falkenstien (Repost)

Polyvagal Theory
Listen to this week's repost to reminisce on Bridger's first episode on Notice That and learn (or relearn)
January 1, 2022
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Somatic Integration and Processing (Repost)

(Repost) The hosts discuss their case conceptualization model, Somatic Integration and Processing. *21 NBCC hours available upon completion
December 14, 2021
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Have A Beyond Bright Holiday Season

Beyond Bright
May your holidays be beyond bright! Have a Beyond Bright Holiday! Jen & Bridger talk about the upcoming
November 30, 2021
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Human as Organism and EMDR – Ep. 65

Listen to hear Melissa, Jen, and Bridger discuss what human as organism means and the value of with
November 30, 2021
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Theory Creation and BHI – Ep. 64

Theory Creation
Listen to hear the senior clinicians at BHC discuss theory creation and Beyond Healing Institute. Feeling inspired? Reach
November 14, 2021
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Adaptive Information Processing – Ep. 63

Listen in to learn how Melissa, Jen, and Bridger conceptualize the adaptive information processing model. Adaptive Information Processing:
October 31, 2021
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Treatment Planning and Target Sequencing – Ep 62

Show intro Case Conceptualization: Treatment Planning and Target Sequencing “The difference between an EMDR clinician and a great
October 17, 2021
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Episode 61: Three Channels of Processing

Listen to this week’s episode of Notice That to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the three channels of
October 3, 2021
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Episode 60: EMDR and Disordered Eating with Dr. Kucharski

Listen in to hear Melissa and special guest, Lori Kucharski, discuss the applications of EMDR with clients presenting
September 19, 2021
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Episode 59: Interview w/ Gary Brothers

Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger host an interview with Gary Brothers, LCSW, a therapist in Austin
September 5, 2021
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Episode 58: Introduction to EMDR and Case Conceptualization

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion on the importance of case conceptualization and how this is
August 22, 2021
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Episode 56: EMDR as Somatic Therapy

Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa discuss how EMDR can be utilized as a somatic therapy. EMDR
July 29, 2021
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Episode 55: What is Resourcing?

Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the fundamental components of resourcing so that we can create
July 11, 2021
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Episode 53: EMDR and Intersubjectivity

Today Jen, Melissa and Bridger discuss intersubjectivity within an EMDR therapy session. Today Jen, Melissa and Bridger discuss
June 26, 2021
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Episode 52: Three Pronged Protocol

Listen in to hear Jen Melissa and Bridger discuss the relevance of the Three Pronged Protocol within the
June 13, 2021
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Episode 51: State Change vs. Trait Change

Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa and Bridger discuss state change vs. trait change, a rather confusing topic
June 2, 2021
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Episode 48: Fraser’s Dissociative Table Demo

For today’s episode we are sharing a demonstration of a variation of Frasier’s Dissociative Table. Description: This is
April 18, 2021
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Episode 47: Ego State and Interacting Parts

In this episode, we continue in our Ego State Series and begin to consider bringing ego state work
April 4, 2021
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Episode 46: Somatic Integration and Processing

In this episode, we are going to share an overview about our model called Somatic Integration and Processing.
March 21, 2021
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Episode 45: Ego State as Preparation and Resource (Part 2)

Listen in to hear part two of the discussion of ego state work, including the installation of a
March 7, 2021
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Episode 44: Ego State as Preparation and Resource (Part 1)

In this episode, we continue our discussion on Ego State work focusing particularly on preparation and resourcing. Initial
February 21, 2021
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General Personal Story

Episode 43: Melissa’s Ego State Story

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Listen in to hear Melissa share a story of her own experience with ego state work and her
February 7, 2021
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Episode 42: Using Ego State with EMDR

Listen to our brand new series that discussed the importance and interventions of ego state work and how
January 24, 2021
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Episode 40: Happy Holidays From Beyond Healing Center

Happy holidays from Beyond Healing Center! We are taking a break from podcast posting and we will be
November 29, 2020
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Episode 39: EMDR and the Triune Brain

In this episode, we are going to explore the ways in which the brain shuts down in response
November 16, 2020
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Episode 38: Right Brain Left Brain Interweaves

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Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa and Bridger discuss left brain versus right brain interweaving and how it
November 1, 2020
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Episode 37: Contributors to the Field of EMDR

In this episode, Jen, Melissa and Bridger discuss how contributors of the field of EMDR have shaped their
October 14, 2020
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Episode 34: Future Template

Do you feel like you need a refresher on how to use a future template? Did you know
September 6, 2020
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General Interviews

Episode 33: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 2)

In this episode we keep talking with Bridger Falenstein about Polyvagal Theory and how it can aid us
August 16, 2020
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Episode 32: Introduction to Polyvagal Theory w/ Bridger (Part 1)

Listen in as Bridger Falkentsein introduces us to the fundamental concepts of Polyvagal Theory and how it can
August 2, 2020
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Episode 29: Shameless

Join us as we discuss how to create change without shame. This episode is brought to you by
June 25, 2020
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Episode 28: Exploring Cultural Moments

Explore the impact of holding a space of curiosity, non-judgment, and compassion for self and others while looking
June 5, 2020
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Episode 27: Knowing Gratitude- Journaling Prompts Mini Series

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May 15, 2020
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Episode 24: EMDR and Telehealth Transition

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EMDR and Telehealth: Listen in as we discuss some important considerations in making the switch from face to
April 8, 2020
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Episode 23: Floatback

  Listen as we share the power of the Floatback Technique. We share our experiences of using this
April 8, 2020
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Episode 22: RTEP

In this episode, we break down the basics of the Recent Traumatic Event Protocol. We share our experience
March 26, 2020
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Episode 19: The EMDR Intensive Model

Learn the difference between the intensive model and traditional therapy model. In this episode, learn the challenges associated
January 29, 2020
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Episode 18: EMDR with Sexual Abuse Survivors

In this episode, we discuss the challenges of doing EMDR with survivors of sexual abuse. We discuss important
January 12, 2020
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Episode 17: Natural Forms of Bilateral Stimulation

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Listen in as we brainstorm different ways to include natural bilateral stimulation in our daily lives to help
December 29, 2019
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Episode 16: EMDR with Dissociative Clients

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In this episode we discuss the challenges of doing EMDR with dissociative clients and how to manage symptoms
December 15, 2019
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Episode 13: Pacing of Therapeutic Process

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On this episode we will break down some of the considerations of pacing our therapeutic process with each
October 14, 2019
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Episode 12: Pacing of an Individual Session

On this episode, we will break down some of the considerations of pacing an individual session with each
September 30, 2019
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Episode 10: Two Handed Interweave

Two Handed Interweave: -Created by Robin Shapiro Learn the basics of using this versatile processing interweave that allows
August 21, 2019
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Episode 9: Remembering Francine Shapiro

In light of her recent passing, we are honored to get to share some of the fascinating and
July 30, 2019
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Episode 7: Choosing Negative and Positive Cognitions

positive cognitions, negative cognitions, reprocessing
Walk with us through the details of Negative and Positive Cognitions. Listen while we discuss the how to
July 1, 2019
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Episode 6: Performance Anxiety as a new EMDR Therapist

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Listen in for tips on overcoming performance anxiety as a therapists in an EMDR session. Our experiences when
June 18, 2019
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Episode 4: The EMDR Certification Process

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Listen in as we break down and clarify the process of becoming certified in EMDR Therapy. We let
March 24, 2019
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EPISODE 3: Integrating EMDR Therapy With Your Practice

Join us as we explore how to integrate EMDR Therapy into your new or existing practice. We will
February 13, 2019
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Episode 2: Introducing EMDR (Part 1)

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In today’s episode, we explore important considerations when introducing EMDR Therapy to your clients. Learn creative metaphors for
February 13, 2019
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EPISODE 1: GETTING STARTED

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We are excited introduce this podcast to you and let you in on our vision for episodes to
February 13, 2019
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HOSTS

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Jen Savage and Melissa Benintendi Licensed Professional Counselors EMDRIA approved EMDR consultants with Bridger Falkenstien

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